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Post by Titans on Sept 25, 2008 9:26:53 GMT -5
Isn't the IR feature supposed to be used only for players that are injured? IMO, if a player is suspended (by the team or the NFL), said player should not be allowed to go on the IR. Per the rules:
INJURED RESERVE (IR):
Each team will have two (2) injured reserve spots that will not count against the 16 player roster limit. Use of injured reserve is subject to the following rules:
1. In order to use the IR feature, you must have a player that is either doubtful or worse as determined by the NFL's official injury report. Players that are not listed but are KNOWN to be out for an undetermined amount of time may also be put on IR. Commissioners will have final say on IR status for players NOT listed on the NFL injury report.
2. You will be able to pick up, and keep a player on your roster to replace the injured player for as long as he is listed as doubtful or worse on the NFL's official injury report.
3. Once a player on your roster is ruled out for the season, and is a non-keeper (drafted before the 4th round), you must drop him from your roster. Non-keepers that are out for the season may NOT be placed on the injured reserve.
4. If one of your keeper players is ruled out for the season due to injury, you may keep that player and put him on IR. At the end of the season you must either drop the injured keeper or another keeper on your roster. There will be NO injured reserve spots available during the off-season.
5. The commissioners reserve the right to make changes to the IR rule throughout the season to prevent it's misuse.
Nothing regarding a suspended player....
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Post by Rams on Sept 25, 2008 16:09:43 GMT -5
You have to elaborate a little. I agree 100%, but information as to who the suspended player is would be helpful. MFL.com made a change to their site very recently which allows suspended players to be regarded as "out". We will not allow this, but it is hard to police with all the transactions.
Thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2008 16:33:20 GMT -5
Seriously....  First of all, I put him on IR b/c he was listed as out. I was surprised he was listed as out. I have Steve Smith in another league that also uses MFL & he was suspended for the first two weeks & he was not listed out. I thought there might be different circumstances here, so I put Plax on IR. No harm intended. I'm not sure why the Titans owner felt the need to put this on the message board rather than send me or a commish a PM about it first. I'm sure you pointed it out to him after Eric asked for some elaboration. But what was that all about? Secondly, you didn't have to use the lockout-commish-status thingy on me. I'm an active owner and would have made the change myself if you'd just e-mailed me. I could see doing this if you'd tried to contact me first & I didn't respond or change it after 24 hours. Or even if I had replaced him w/ another active player. That I could understand. Looking forward to our next meeting Mr. Titans-man. Hopefully I won't be 0-4 against you after that game...  (Man, I've had some terrible luck. 2nd highest points in our division, but also 2nd highest points AGAINST me. Maybe that will change  ) |
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Post by Titans on Sept 25, 2008 17:14:14 GMT -5
No hard feelings intended - I just wanted clarification. With Goodell in command, suspensions may become much more frequent (they already are).
I look forward to meeting #2, Mr. Colt.
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Post by Rams on Sept 26, 2008 11:04:40 GMT -5
Reason Steve Smith was not listed out was because MFL just implimented this last week I believe. I know you are active, just wanted to get it done and over with.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2014 12:00:19 GMT -5
first.. let me just say as a relatively new guy here what I share is simply my own opinion.. however as a FF player who has played this game at many levels (high and low) for 30+ years, I really don't like this as it stands now.. IMO the IR designation in the NFL is for one thing and one thing only.. and that is for NFL players who are designated for Injured Reserve.. not Doubtful or Out or really anything else. So I feel like having this rule as it stands within this league now is really doing nothing short of creating a loophole for owners to stash players who are dinged and going to maybe miss some time. Even more than that it seriously deflates the value of the waivers process. I would propose we take a hard look at this during the off season and seriously consider using the IR designation for what IR "is supposed to be for".. if guys want a "pup" list then lets vote that in also.. either way, I believe it should be changed.
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Post by Rams on Oct 5, 2014 18:30:46 GMT -5
Most fantasy leagues have IR spots for players that are "out" or worse. In all my years I've only ever played in 2 leagues without an IR like that, and I've played in plenty more than a dozen. The reason we go with "doubtful" or worse is because we have an extremely small roster size. We start 11 players and only have 16 slots on our rosters. Most leagues, especially keeper leagues, have a roster size double the size of the starting lineup. If we increased our roster size to 18 or 20 players, the waiver wire would be even worse than it's current state. At least with IR we limit that extra space to injured players only, which usually results in a temporary slot.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2014 10:48:30 GMT -5
Most fantasy leagues have IR spots for players that are "out" or worse. In all my years I've only ever played in 2 leagues without an IR like that, and I've played in plenty more than a dozen. The reason we go with "doubtful" or worse is because we have an extremely small roster size. We start 11 players and only have 16 slots on our rosters. Most leagues, especially keeper leagues, have a roster size double the size of the starting lineup. If we increased our roster size to 18 or 20 players, the waiver wire would be even worse than it's current state. At least with IR we limit that extra space to injured players only, which usually results in a temporary slot. ...but wouldn't that make waivers more important and thus be more challenging to owners? and IMO make the league even more compettive? at least that is how I look at it. I feel like the way it is now makes it easier for owners because they are able to keep players stashed and they don't have to work as hard to find viable replacements along with handle and try to skillfully work their rosters on a regular basis. |
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Post by Rams on Oct 7, 2014 6:43:35 GMT -5
I guess it works both ways. If I have a great keeper, like jamaal Charles, if he goes down for 6-8 weeks what am I to do without an IR slot? You can't expect me to drop him. If we weren't playing a keeper league, your idea wouldn't be so bad. I think with this being a keeper league, we need to be able to stash players at some level. It's already hard enough to find good keepers as it is, I don't want to be forced to drop my keepers because they are injured.
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Post by 49ers on Oct 7, 2014 9:48:12 GMT -5
Lol you really want to make this league harder??? Its already the toughest league you'll ever play in...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2014 10:42:19 GMT -5
I guess it works both ways. If I have a great keeper, like jamaal Charles, if he goes down for 6-8 weeks what am I to do without an IR slot? You can't expect me to drop him. If we weren't playing a keeper league, your idea wouldn't be so bad. I think with this being a keeper league, we need to be able to stash players at some level. It's already hard enough to find good keepers as it is, I don't want to be forced to drop my keepers because they are injured. noooo.. I am not saying do away with IR.. the Jamal Charles example is reason enough to keep the IR slots.. my point is make it legit.. in that if a guy is on IR.. then yes.. you can IR him.. if he is on the IR-return list then you can also IR him but when he is off that list then at that time you take him off.. but if a player is not on the IR list then you can't use the IR list to simply save a player for a week or two.. it forces you as an owner to make a choice.. use waivers to help your team, make a trade, or take the lumps of having an injured player. To me it's part of managing your team. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2014 15:15:28 GMT -5
BUMP..
just hoping we are going to take a hard look at this going forward.
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Post by Chargers on Dec 2, 2014 20:54:03 GMT -5
BUMP.. just hoping we are going to take a hard look at this going forward. From the league rules: The annual rules review period will take place during the month of February. Change proposals will be accepted from February 1 through February 28th, with the following rules:
1. Each team may propose only one rule change per season.
2. Each proposed change will be reviewed by the commissioners. If 3 out of the 4 commissioners accept the proposal, then it will be put up for a league vote.
3. A majority must vote in favor of a change in order for it to pass. A majority will be in respect to the total votes received, and must be a minimum of ten (10) "favor" votes regardless of the total number of votes received. The voting process for accepted proposals will take place from March 1st to March 15th.Feel free to bring this up again at the proper time, Mark. Tony |
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Post by Chargers on Feb 7, 2015 22:50:33 GMT -5
BUMP.. just hoping we are going to take a hard look at this going forward. From the league rules: The annual rules review period will take place during the month of February. Change proposals will be accepted from February 1 through February 28th, with the following rules:
1. Each team may propose only one rule change per season.
2. Each proposed change will be reviewed by the commissioners. If 3 out of the 4 commissioners accept the proposal, then it will be put up for a league vote.
3. A majority must vote in favor of a change in order for it to pass. A majority will be in respect to the total votes received, and must be a minimum of ten (10) "favor" votes regardless of the total number of votes received. The voting process for accepted proposals will take place from March 1st to March 15th.Feel free to bring this up again at the proper time, Mark.
Just a reminder that February is the "Annual Rules Review Period", so if any owner would like to make a rule change proposal, you have until February 28 to do so. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2015 12:54:46 GMT -5
I propose that players that MFL lists "on IR" are just that "on IR" and are the ONLY players that any owner should be allowed to put on IR. In the NFL a player on IR is out for the season (unless he is on that "temp IR list" which MFL also does now track). I believe having "out" players on the IR list does nothing but give owners an avenue to stash a player who is presently not of use on a week to week basis. IMO that really takes away from what an IR list is all about anyway.
I know I'm the new guy for all intents and purposes and this might be how you all have always done it and I'm not gonna take my ball and go home if it doesn't change. However with all due respect to the entire league (which I enjoy very much), IMO it is one of the absolute worst rules I've seen in a league of this magnitude ever. I've been playing this game for 30 plus years (the last 15 or more dynasty) and this is really the only league that leaves an opening that allows owners this type of move.
my case is stated.. it's up to the powers that be.
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