9ers Up for trade - Sun 2 Jul Edit

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*UPDATE*

Kelce trade still possible but not plausible.

At this point, I plan on keeping Powell, LaFell, Lee, Kelce, Ogbah, Trevathan, Breeland, Jefferson, and likely Irvin or McCourty. The Raider in me says Irvin, the IDP in me says McCourty.

Everyone else is up for late round swaps. Most of the defenders are young starters, yet to grow into their own.

If you see my crazy trades, just asking for 7-8-9 swap type material. If you have no defenders at a certain defensive position, I have a guy that can start for you and you don't have to spend that 6 or 7 on him you can trade me a late upgrade and still have a pick.


Kelce, Travis KCC TE - Still maybe

LaFell, Brandon CIN WR - Great for me last year, and younger than you think. I tried like heck to trade him last year but ended up a key cog on my Championship team.

Rankins, Sheldon NOS DT - 2016 1st rounder, played great once he started

Washington, Adolphus BUF DT - 2nd year guy; supposed to be the next big thing if those old Bills D Linemen ever retire

NINKOVICH, ROB NEP DE - Old reliable. Was suspended first 4 games last year so that's what led to low numbers. FBG projects back to old stats, including 7 sacks.

Attaochu, Jeremiah LAC LB - 4th year guy; played well til was hurt/out/inactive mostly after week 6

Irvin, Bruce OAK LB - 6th year guy, had career year last year. Set up for even better year with more health and less Malcolm Smith around him. Prob keeping.

Moore, Sio HOU LB - Played 8 games for 2 diff teams, however, in those 8 game averaged over 10 FP per.

Woodyard, Wesley TEN LB - Solid FP guy. FBG predicts better numbers than last year, when he was the #62 overall LB in FP. There are only 11 Free Agents ahead of him.

McCourty, Jason CLE CB - #7 FP CB last year even while missing last 3 games

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Updated; Kelce has been traded.

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Correction, Kelce has NOT been traded as the commish's feel it is unjust to give the reigning Champ a top 3 draft pick

[Titans]

Give me a break...have a pity party for yourself somewhere else. We will not let absolutely lopsided trades go through. Not one of us four thought that "trade" was even close to being fair.

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Well I lost the bet on which one would be the first to try and justify turning it down.

[49ers]

Trades should only be vetoed of there is strong evidence for collusion. This happens every year to someone and its rediculous. Let the trades go through. If theyre lopsided the owner who got burned should suffer the consequences. Also who knows how a trade will end up down the line. Kelce could break his leg tomorrow who knows. or maybe the guy the niners drafts retires a day before the season and the owner who appeared to get the raw end of the deal makes out like a bandit. You nevet know who got the better end of the deal until after the season is done.

[Bengals]

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I mean, Kelce is OBVIOUSLY no Golden Tate.

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TIGHT END TIERS
TIER 1
Rob Gronkowski, Patriots – Le'Veon Bell, David Johnson, and Gronkowski are by far the three most dominant weekly difference makers in fantasy football. His draft position has plummeted due to a down year caused by Brady’s suspension and his back injury. Fully healthy now, Gronkowski will be just as dominant as ever. Do not let him slip to the third round, because if you do, you are giving your opponent a major advantage right out of the gate.

TIER 2
Travis Kelce, Chiefs – With Jeremy Maclin cut, Kelce is this team’s most dominant and reliable receiving option. The passing game could very well be funneled through him, although, unfortunately it is still Alex Smith throwing the passes. Kelce caught 85 passes for 1,125 yards and 4 touchdowns last season, look for similar numbers this year but for the touchdowns to rise to six or more. He was Pro Football Focus’ (PFF’s) number one rated tight end and also finished number one in Football Outsiders DYAR rating.

[Ravens]

Denver Bronco's owner made a good point - trades are subjective and this league is full of owners attempting to build their teams in different ways - if no collusion let the trade go through

[Jaguars]

Jun 9, 2017 11:58:47 GMT -5 @49ers said:

I mean, Kelce is OBVIOUSLY no Golden Tate.

I posted this last night but then took it down, thinking "f**k it, it's not worth it." I kept quiet all last year while Tate made your boy in this thread look like a jackass.

But nah; if ya'll want to get yammering like some old hens and mentioning it every time you guys are pouting because a trade doesn't go your way, lets break it down:



1.19 and 4.02 for Tate. 


Kelce has never outproduced Tate in this league. Tate gets more targets than Kelce. Tate has a rising QB and is heading in to the 3rd year of what has been a successful Jim Bob Cooter offense; an offense that treats him generously. Tate turns 29 this year, Kelce turns 28.

Tate:

2016 240 points WR/TE #13, keeper #6
2015 213 points WR/TE #28, keeper #17
2014 278 points WR/TE #10, keeper #6

Kelce:


2016 231 points WR/TE #19 kepper #10
2015 199 points WR/TE #36, keeper # 22
2014 187 points WR/TE #35, keeper #21



WR/TE who have outperformed Tate over the last 3 years:

Antonio Brown
Julio Jones
Odell Beckham
Demaryius Thomas
TY Hilton
DeAndre Hopkins
Mike Evans


End of list.


So no, Kelce obviously isn't Tate; but not in the way that you meant. Tate has been superior to Kelce to this point by almost every metric. He was gotten for a high teen 1st and an early 4th. It's pretty safe to assume that you were getting more value than that in return seeing as a top 3 pick is already comparable to a late teen 1st and an early 4.

This isn't to say that Kelce isn't valuable, or that every team wouldn't love to have him -- it's just saying that if my trade last year for Tate is going to be the new barometer of "fairness" in this league, then you all should at least be a little educated on what you are talking about before running your mouth. 

Ya'll are grown men, act like it. 

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Jun 11, 2017 14:05:57 GMT -5 Jaguars said:

Jun 9, 2017 11:58:47 GMT -5 @49ers said:

I mean, Kelce is OBVIOUSLY no Golden Tate.

I posted this last night but then took it down, thinking "f**k it, it's not worth it." I kept quiet all last year while Tate made your boy in this thread look like a jackass.

But nah; if ya'll want to get yammering like some old hens and mentioning it every time you guys are pouting because a trade doesn't go your way, lets break it down:



1.19 and 4.02 for Tate. 


Kelce has never outproduced Tate in this league. Tate gets more targets than Kelce. Tate has a rising QB and is heading in to the 3rd year of what has been a successful Jim Bob Cooter offense; an offense that treats him generously. Tate turns 29 this year, Kelce turns 28.

Tate:

2016 240 points WR/TE #13, keeper #6
2015 213 points WR/TE #28, keeper #17
2014 278 points WR/TE #10, keeper #6

Kelce:


2016 231 points WR/TE #19 kepper #10
2015 199 points WR/TE #36, keeper # 22
2014 187 points WR/TE #35, keeper #21



WR/TE who have outperformed Tate over the last 3 years:

Antonio Brown
Julio Jones
Odell Beckham
Demaryius Thomas
TY Hilton
DeAndre Hopkins
Mike Evans


End of list.


So no, Kelce obviously isn't Tate; but not in the way that you meant. Tate has been superior to Kelce to this point by almost every metric. He was gotten for a high teen 1st and an early 4th. It's pretty safe to assume that you were getting more value than that in return seeing as a top 3 pick is already comparable to a late teen 1st and an early 4.

This isn't to say that Kelce isn't valuable, or that every team wouldn't love to have him -- it's just saying that if my trade last year for Tate is going to be the new barometer of "fairness" in this league, then you all should at least be a little educated on what you are talking about before running your mouth. 

Ya'll are grown men, act like it. 

*... clap... clap... clap...* I've never seen anyone, ever, anywhere, go to bat for a player briefly mentioned alluding to a year old conversation and humorous season-long thread involving a completely separate owner, so valiantly held up, defended and thoughtfully and painstakingly researched; bravo.

We should all strive for such excellence and maturity.

Oh, and "Ya'll" is actually spelled, "Y'all." That's really only worthwhile thing I got from your post. And that you really, really really, really really dig Tate.

[Jaguars]

<3

Best of luck to ya this year. I hope that you get what you are looking for in your trades.

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