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Post by Rams on Mar 3, 2009 16:17:36 GMT -5
Waiver wire each week will consist of two parts, blind bid and first come first served (FCFS).
Blind bid process will be run as follows:
Each team will start the season with a $100 FA allowance. Each week bids may be placed from Sunday at 12pm central until Wednesday night at 11:59pm central. There will be a minimum bid of $1 on all players. There is no maximum bid as long as a team does not exceed their remaining balance. At the end of the bidding period players will be given out to the highest bidding team with tiebreakers as follows:
Overall winning percentage
Power ranking as determined by MFL.com
Total points scored YTD
Reverse order of opponents total points against
Lowest team on the tie-breakers will receive the player.
On Thursday at 7pm central FCFS waivers will begin and be run until Sunday at 11:45am central. During this process any team may pick up any player on a first come first served basis. Each player picked up during this process will cost a team $0 against their remaining allowance. There are two exceptions to the FCFS waiver process:
1. Any player dropped during the blind bid process or FCFS process will be locked until the next blind bid process is run. This means any player dropped during the week will be locked by the system and unavailable to be picked up until the following week when the next blind bid process is run.
2. Once a players game has started for the week he will be unavailable to be picked up via the FCFS process. This means any player playing in a Thursday or Saturday game must be picked up prior to the start time of their game, once their game has started they will be locked by the system until the following week when the next blind bid process is run.
Each team will be limited to 3 total waivers per week between both processes.
Please vote on the above poll!!!
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Post by falcons on Mar 3, 2009 21:17:27 GMT -5
I play in about 3 leagues and no-offense this one is the toughest to understand and play. I'm wiling to admit I'm not the brightest guy but does a bidding style really fit with the rest of our format?
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Post by Eagles on Mar 3, 2009 22:31:58 GMT -5
I play in about 3 leagues and no-offense this one is the toughest to understand and play. I'm wiling to admit I'm not the brightest guy but does a bidding style really fit with the rest of our format? The intent of this rule proposal is to give all owners a fair shake at improving their teams. Teams that draft well will no longer be penalized and teams that draft poorly will no longer be rewarded. The format of the league is to try and mirror the NFL as much as we can and NFL teams do not get to pick up FA based on their success, so it does match our format. With 32 teams in the league the rules cannot be simplistic and effective. However, the system really is not that complicated. Just bid on any player you want by Wednesday at midnight. The highest bid wins. Then Thursday at 7 all players are available to the 1st person to request them. I'm not trying to tell you how to vote. I'm just answering your question. |
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Post by mpatrick on Mar 11, 2009 8:17:23 GMT -5
This sounds like an excellent way to keep the long standing good teams good and the teams trying to build a competitive team down. Do we want to try and protect the dynasty teams even more so they can win each season easier and easier or do we want to give the teams who are only 1 or 2 years into their keepers an opportunity to compete? The Eagles say its all about who drafts well, I disagree! This league is more about maintaining good keepers year to year first and drafting well second. Advantage will usually go to the owners who have been here the longest.
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Post by falcons on Mar 14, 2009 8:00:39 GMT -5
Wow eagles you can not be serious with the last post. Please revise the first sentence. Your as you are a commish for crying out loud. So you want to make it harder for teams that don't draft as well to compete. Those are the people that need most help. And just the terms "draft well" are insulting. Are you saying that people just try to do poor. How long have you played fantasy football, two weeks? Was LT poor drafting last year? We've all had years where we drafted what should have been a dream team only to tank. So on those years where a team just has some bad luck you want them to take a back seat and not compete?  Kiss off..... I'm in bidding leagues and non bidding leagues but combo's. I think these two new polls are being suggested from players who want to lesson there specif chances of their success because there pissed at how other people play. Did i say Kiss off yet? This is a 32 keeper league, its nuts you have a 1 & 32 chance just the the non fantasy cardinals did this year. Get a little lucky and you might win one. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2009 10:02:07 GMT -5
This sounds like an excellent way to keep the long standing good teams good and the teams trying to build a competitive team down. Do we want to try and protect the dynasty teams even more so they can win each season easier and easier or do we want to give the teams who are only 1 or 2 years into their keepers an opportunity to compete? The Eagles say its all about who drafts well, I disagree! This league is more about maintaining good keepers year to year first and drafting well second. Advantage will usually go to the owners who have been here the longest.Thanks I don't see how the FCFS waivers keep good teams good & others down, unless the other teams are uninterested & don't play the waiver wire. The WW is huge in every league I'm in. It is tool that could totally transform your team IN SEASON, even if you drafted poorly. For instance, my first season here I drafted okay. I wasn't great at it but I did okay. I had a pretty favorable schedule & went 10-4. You know who I picked up on the WW? Ryan Grant. You know who I dropped b/c he wasn't producing? Ryan Grant. He blew up in the last half of the season. The Rams picked him up after me and then traded him in the offseason (I think). Grant was not great last year but RBs are hard to come by in this league & he is at least serviceable and would start on 95% of the teams in this league. As far as drafting goes, alot of it is luck, but alot of the problem is that people draft highly players that will not produce at the level at which they were drafted. QBs score ALOT of points in this league but we regularly see good QBs drop. Two years ago I got Big Ben in the mid 2nd when he threw 30 TDs. Last year I had a choice in the mid 2nd of the Young, Garrard, or Cutler. I love Cutler but have him in a dynasty league & wanted to try something different in this one. I went with Young for the upside of his rushing ability. Instead I got Kerry FREAKIN Collins!@#$%^ If I had drafted Cutler I would have won more games. That's on me b/c of MY drafting. As far as the league being keeper driven, this is true. But again, let's think about how you get those keepers. I keep coming back to the Rams but his WRs are sick. Reggie Wayne & Anquan Boldin!!! Try to get one away from him.... It won't happen. I know he's been around awhile but he obviously did SOMETHING to get those keepers- draft, WW, trade. He knew what to do & did it. Is there luck involved? Yes. Is there skill involved? Yes. Last year he added Eddie Royal. ER blew up as a rookie. Green Bay drafted Royal & I assume there was a trade along the way. The Rams get richer. Why? Because they made a move to get another good, young player. IIRC, my first year in the Rams were coming off a championship season. They have sick keepers as we've already noted. They didn't repeat. Green Bay won. You know how? They sold every keeper & every keeper pick & loaded their team with 1sts & other early picks. Whoever bought Larry Johnson off him that year greatly overpaid & bought a lemon. GBP went on to win the Super Bowl. My bro-in-law, SD Chargers, has been in the Super Bowl the last two seasons. Tony's keepers are not overwhelming (afterall their ALL Chargers  . He has made moves the last two seasons to get in position to draft LT. To me, he does a GREAT job of doing all three of the things we're talking about. He is very balanced & calculating in the way he approaches his keepers, the draft, & the WW during season. He wins, & the way he wins is different from GBP, just as GBP is different from the Rams. How are they different from the rest of us? They know things. They've been here a while and have experience. But it's not just experience that matters. They each have a plan and they stick to it. And each plan is different, yet each team wins. It is possible to get better in this league & to win in this league. It does take time but there are multiple ways to get there. You've got to make an plan, stick to it mostly, & see how it goes. If it doesn't work, try another one. Take a look at what GBP has on the trade block. EVERYTHING- & he only wants one thing, 1st round picks. He's the Steinbrenner of the NFLFFL. He wants to buy his championship. Take a look at what Tony has on the trade block- NOTHING. He'll do a lot of trading this season, but not willy-nilly. He has a plan. If the advantage goes to the ones who have been in the league the longest, it's because the new players (each year) don't know what they are doing. Brandon Jacobs was a STEAL this year. Seattle has been around. This year he's gonna win alot of games. It's taken him a long time to find the right :patsie: to get his RB, but now he has him. I'm not downing the new Giants owner, but he just didn't know how valuable RBs are in this league and how hard they are to come by. Even harder to find are stud WRs. When you have these (hello Eric), you are WAAAY ahead of everyone else. The Giants other mistake was not fielding offers from others about Jacobs, he probably could have gotten alot more. I guess my advice is for all the new owners to cool their jets & figure some stuff out first. Have a plan & stick to it. Take advantage of trades when they are advantageous, but don't trade just to trade (event though it is TOTALLY addicting, just ask the Bills). Have a plan when you draft, but if you are not in a position of strength at any position you've got to take the BPA whether it be a RB, LB, or WR. I took Patrick Willis in the late 2nd in his rookie season. It was my first year & the Rams thought I was crazy. It was the right pick! If you only have a hole or two, draft to fill those needs. And if you have some 4th round picks & are truly rebuilding, TAKE SOME ROOKIES IF THEY ARE AVAILABLE but be sure you do your homework on them. BTW- this is pure luck because you just never know. One more thing, if you're new to IDP- do your homework. Sorry for the treatise. Just some thoughts I've had as I go into my third year. (HAVEN'T MADE A TRADE YET, BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THE BILLS HAVEN'T TRIED  ) |
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Post by Bills on Mar 14, 2009 10:11:28 GMT -5
This sounds like an excellent way to keep the long standing good teams good and the teams trying to build a competitive team down. Do we want to try and protect the dynasty teams even more so they can win each season easier and easier or do we want to give the teams who are only 1 or 2 years into their keepers an opportunity to compete? The Eagles say its all about who drafts well, I disagree! This league is more about maintaining good keepers year to year first and drafting well second. Advantage will usually go to the owners who have been here the longest.Thanks I don't see how the FCFS waivers keep good teams good & others down, unless the other teams are uninterested & don't play the waiver wire. The WW is huge in every league I'm in. It is tool that could totally transform your team IN SEASON, even if you drafted poorly. For instance, my first season here I drafted okay. I wasn't great at it but I did okay. I had a pretty favorable schedule & went 10-4. You know who I picked up on the WW? Ryan Grant. You know who I dropped b/c he wasn't producing? Ryan Grant. He blew up in the last half of the season. The Rams picked him up after me and then traded him in the offseason (I think). Grant was not great last year but RBs are hard to come by in this league & he is at least serviceable and would start on 95% of the teams in this league. As far as drafting goes, alot of it is luck, but alot of the problem is that people draft highly players that will not produce at the level at which they were drafted. QBs score ALOT of points in this league but we regularly see good QBs drop. Two years ago I got Big Ben in the mid 2nd when he threw 30 TDs. Last year I had a choice in the mid 2nd of the Young, Garrard, or Cutler. I love Cutler but have him in a dynasty league & wanted to try something different in this one. I went with Young for the upside of his rushing ability. Instead I got Kerry FREAKIN Collins!@#$%^ If I had drafted Cutler I would have won more games. That's on me b/c of MY drafting. As far as the league being keeper driven, this is true. But again, let's think about how you get those keepers. I keep coming back to the Rams but his WRs are sick. Reggie Wayne & Anquan Boldin!!! Try to get one away from him.... It won't happen. I know he's been around awhile but he obviously did SOMETHING to get those keepers- draft, WW, trade. He knew what to do & did it. Is there luck involved? Yes. Is there skill involved? Yes. Last year he added Eddie Royal. ER blew up as a rookie. Green Bay drafted Royal & I assume there was a trade along the way. The Rams get richer. Why? Because they made a move to get another good, young player. IIRC, my first year in the Rams were coming off a championship season. They have sick keepers as we've already noted. They didn't repeat. Green Bay won. You know how? They sold every keeper & every keeper pick & loaded their team with 1sts & other early picks. Whoever bought Larry Johnson off him that year greatly overpaid & bought a lemon. GBP went on to win the Super Bowl. My bro-in-law, SD Chargers, has been in the Super Bowl the last two seasons. Tony's keepers are not overwhelming (afterall their ALL Chargers . He has made moves the last two seasons to get in position to draft LT. To me, he does a GREAT job of doing all three of the things we're talking about. He is very balanced & calculating in the way he approaches his keepers, the draft, & the WW during season. He wins, & the way he wins is different from GBP, just as GBP is different from the Rams. How are they different from the rest of us? They know things. They've been here a while and have experience. But it's not just experience that matters. They each have a plan and they stick to it. And each plan is different, yet each team wins. It is possible to get better in this league & to win in this league. It does take time but there are multiple ways to get there. You've got to make an plan, stick to it mostly, & see how it goes. If it doesn't work, try another one. Take a look at what GBP has on the trade block. EVERYTHING- & he only wants one thing, 1st round picks. He's the Steinbrenner of the NFLFFL. He wants to buy his championship. Take a look at what Tony has on the trade block- NOTHING. He'll do a lot of trading this season, but not willy-nilly. He has a plan. If the advantage goes to the ones who have been in the league the longest, it's because the new players (each year) don't know what they are doing. Brandon Jacobs was a STEAL this year. Seattle has been around. This year he's gonna win alot of games. It's taken him a long time to find the right :patsie: to get his RB, but now he has him. I'm not downing the new Giants owner, but he just didn't know how valuable RBs are in this league and how hard they are to come by. Even harder to find are stud WRs. When you have these (hello Eric), you are WAAAY ahead of everyone else. The Giants other mistake was not fielding offers from others about Jacobs, he probably could have gotten alot more. I guess my advice is for all the new owners to cool their jets & figure some stuff out first. Have a plan & stick to it. Take advantage of trades when they are advantageous, but don't trade just to trade (event though it is TOTALLY addicting, just ask the Bills). Have a plan when you draft, but if you are not in a position of strength at any position you've got to take the BPA whether it be a RB, LB, or WR. I took Patrick Willis in the late 2nd in his rookie season. It was my first year & the Rams thought I was crazy. It was the right pick! If you only have a hole or two, draft to fill those needs. And if you have some 4th round picks & are truly rebuilding, TAKE SOME ROOKIES IF THEY ARE AVAILABLE but be sure you do your homework on them. BTW- this is pure luck because you just never know. One more thing, if you're new to IDP- do your homework. Sorry for the treatise. Just some thoughts I've had as I go into my third year. (HAVEN'T MADE A TRADE YET, BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THE BILLS HAVEN'T TRIED ) Thanks for the reference man, but you didnt need to remind everyone, they know, they know ;D. |
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Post by falcons on Mar 14, 2009 10:12:02 GMT -5
Colts, I think I'm agreeing with most of what your saying. Good stuff. I'm trying to address the reason the WW change is being proposed. Are we changing for change sake? is it going to better this game? I think not. The WW is I believe right the way it is for the way this league is set up. It makes sense, not sure how a bidding system will enhance the game.
Yea its real possible in this league to get better playing well. The better you do in this keeper league the better trade and keeper potential you have.
Are we trying to fix something that is not broken?
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Post by Rams on Mar 14, 2009 11:13:09 GMT -5
At this point it doesn't matter much. Neither poll has done well enough to impress here, both may end up scrapped.
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Post by Eagles on Mar 17, 2009 9:28:15 GMT -5
Wow eagles you can not be serious with the last post. Please revise the first sentence. Your as you are a commish for crying out loud. So you want to make it harder for teams that don't draft as well to compete. Those are the people that need most help. And just the terms "draft well" are insulting. Are you saying that people just try to do poor. How long have you played fantasy football, two weeks? Was LT poor drafting last year? We've all had years where we drafted what should have been a dream team only to tank. So on those years where a team just has some bad luck you want them to take a back seat and not compete? Kiss off..... I'm in bidding leagues and non bidding leagues but combo's. I think these two new polls are being suggested from players who want to lesson there specif chances of their success because there pissed at how other people play. Did i say Kiss off yet? This is a 32 keeper league, its nuts you have a 1 & 32 chance just the the non fantasy cardinals did this year. Get a little lucky and you might win one. My PC crashed and this is the first I've had to reply to this post. My first question is with the anger management issues. Why are you attacking me because you disagree with my opinion(commish or not)? Feel free to make a post about why you disagree with me, but to make it personal is a little irrational don't you think? I'm really neither here nor there about how this rule goes. I have been in this league since the 1st year and I've never made the playoffs. It isn't as if I'm trying to gain anything. Like the Rams said, it is a moot point now anyway, but lighten up next time. Did I say irrational yet? |
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Post by Rams on Mar 17, 2009 15:48:09 GMT -5
Neither poll has done well. I am going to shut both ideas down until we can figure out a better idea going forward.
There may however be some minor changes done to the waiver wire as it is now though.
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Post by gfritsch on Mar 17, 2009 19:38:01 GMT -5
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Post by falcons on Mar 17, 2009 21:57:29 GMT -5
Its just the off season dude. nothing better to do. and didn't you attack me first:)
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. He has made moves the last two seasons to get in position to draft LT. To me, he does a GREAT job of doing all three of the things we're talking about. He is very balanced & calculating in the way he approaches his keepers, the draft, & the WW during season. He wins, & the way he wins is different from GBP, just as GBP is different from the Rams. How are they different from the rest of us? They know things. They've been here a while and have experience. But it's not just experience that matters. They each have a plan and they stick to it. And each plan is different, yet each team wins.
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